Partylist Rep. Satur Ocampo: the one who drafted Proclamation 1959 is confused.

Rebellion is hard to prove, says Partylist Rep. Satur Ocampo, pointing out that though he was charged with rebellion during the Marcos dictatorship, the charges were not proven until the time he managed to escape.
Later, when as a member of the House of Representatives he was again accused of rebellion, he said it took the justice department nine months to prepare charges against him and five other partylist representatives.
He raises the point that critics have raised: that the rebellion case might be a way out for the Ampatuans, because it is hard to prove and two, because it is political. Because it is hard to prove, there is a chance that the Ampatuans charged with rebellion will scot-free. And because it is political, there is the chance that even if the Ampatuans were found guilty and convicted, the President can always pardon them.
Congress suspends session until 2 p.m. Thursday afternoon.

Satur ocampo: ang pagsubaybay ko sa mga tanong at sagot…unprecedented…hindi lang declaration at suspension, dalawang magkahiwalay na sinasabi ng constitution, in case of rebellion or invasion..3 patong-patong, yun ba ang kinakailangan ng sitwasyon? (state of emergency, martial law, suspension of writ of habeas corpus).
Pumasok yung element of rebellion nang inaresto si mayor andal jr…the ampatuan group backed by formidable group of armed followers…deprived chief executive of power to enforce law…separatist group joined forces with ampatuans for this purpose…ito yung unang ibinigay na report sa akin a few days ago at ito rin ang report ngayon. Malinaw ang pagkasulat…ang separatist group allied with ampatuan.
Confused ang gumawa ng proclamation 1959…report pagtatangka na maka establish ng situation of rebellion where there is none. Mula nov 29 nagsimulang mag-mass up ang iba’t ibang pwersa…ilang araw poi yon? Naka-mass sila hindi sila gumagalaw. Umatake ba sila? Walang sinasabi. Marami nang nagtanong kung merong aktwal na invasion ang sagot wala. Ang sinasabi, massing constitutes an act of rebellion kasi ang consequence ay inaalisan ng allegiance…kung atin pong babalikan…kinasuhan ninyo kami ng rebellion…they cannot prove rebellion. Kasi ang hinahanap nilang rebels, kaming akusado nag-mass up at lumaban sa gobyerno. Nang kasuhan akong muli ng rebelyon, nandito na kami sa kongreso. Ang pinagmamalaki, kung narito ngayon si Norberto Gonzales…it took 9 months to prepare case of rebellion against 6 batasan reps of party list groups…139 documents…sabi ng sc, no evidence. Tingin ko, ang pangyayari…yung ganito ay ang sitwasyon sa maguindanao ay talagang merong existing rebellion iyan, but it is the rebellion by the milf based in maguindanao hindi ng ampatuans…mahirap sabihin na bahagi iyon ng kanilang act of rebellion. Sinasabi ng justice sec…overnight na transform into rebellion. Kasi nag mass up sila iba na character nila…ang pangyayaring ito, nagdeclare ng state of emergency, at tinuluyan ng martial law…inutil ang ating law enforcement agencies, hindi masupil…kinailangan ng patong patong na aksyon na gawin ng presidente at hanggang ngayon ay hindi pa nalulutas?

Ermita: the first proclamation…1946…declaring a state of emergency…at that point in time, it was determined by authorities that it was adequate at moment, at that time, to help afp to suppress lawlessness. But as situation developed, habang araw ay lumilipas at nakita natin ang resulta…imbestigasyon ng pnp at nbi marami silang nadiskubre…security group…minabuti na..collegial recommendation…recommend na martial law be declared at iyon po ang pinagbabasihan ay ang napagkasunduan na meron nang actual rebellion na nangyayari dahil sa nadiskubre ng mga imbestigador ang laki ng grupo na tangka ay…it graduated from mere declaration of state of emergency into declaration of martial law. Now ang sabi ng ating legal luminaries, declaration ay iba sa martial law…noong panahon, pagdeclare ng martial law, automatic na ang epekto ng suspension of writ of habeas corpus…iyon ay kailangan ilagay sa isang proklamasyon…upang isagawa ang pakay ng deklarasyon..kung hindi po nagdeclare sa paalgay natin ay magkakaroon ng kaguluhan. Iyon lamang pag-aresto…kung hindi nag declare ng martial law hindi maeffect ang pag aresto, hindi magiging madali ang pag disarma ng armed groups na alam ng military at police, simula gobernador at even grandson na nanunungkulan sa iba’t ibang…

Satur: hindi pa nali-lift ang proclamation 1946?

Ermita: hindi pa po.

Satur: tatlo

Ermita: tama po.

Satur: gaano na ka successful…timeframe na 60 days, kakailanganin talaga…para ma-suppress ang lawless violence diyan. Hindi ko po tinatanggap na rebellion..

Ermita: 60 days, limit na binibigay…would like to request authorities to give us update…asks pnp chief to respond to question.

Versoza: since implementation of martial law, put up lot of operations, conducted seizure of vehicles and firearms at warehouses of ampatuans…made search and recovered several firearms and cache of ampatuan sr. the seizure of firearms continuing…also at ampatuan municipality…yesterday we had seizure at municipality of capitol shariff aguak. Today at treasurer’s office also at capitol fo shariff aguak. It totals…the number of firearms now totals around 900.
We have conducted patrol operations…sightings in mamasapano area moved towards east. In our operations at datu unsay encountered group of armed persons there and shootout in that area…also in one recovery operations our troops conducted…fired upon…we have also arrested persons that are suspected to have allowed the hiding of several armored trucks and also the fake police vehicles in municipality of shariff aguak. Also arrested persons in municipality of ampatuan. We have filed cases of rebellion for 24 persons that includes ampatuan sr and the gov of armm and it has already been filed today. We will be analyzing if we…support referral of those arrested also, submitting to doj. We are continuing our security operations so that we will be able to maintain peace and order in those respective areas.

Satur: prospect nitong magsa-succeed? Ilang rebellion cases ang filed na successfully prosecuted?

Devanadera: would not want to preempt the efforts of prosecution on this.

Satur: stress why I raised the fact that this is unprecedented…actual rebellion as this has been defined despite amendments of revised penal code still element of rebellion requires…fear is if this congress fails to revoke a proclamation of martial law on basis of…likelihood same ground will be…in other places…also looming suspicion that by charging elder ampatuan, designed to weaken case that in absence of evidence of actual rebellion…and the ampatuans…where would we be if this happens? This representation takes a very strong position…should be declared unconstitutional. Our filing petitions to challenge…as citizens, not forum shopping.

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